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Dec

Honda & Acura Used Car Buying Tip #6 – Internet Car Shopping: Google That VIN

This www.accuratecars.com blog post is number 6 in a series of used car buying tips, that you can easily perform in conjunction with the internet,  when shopping for Honda used cars and Acura used cars.

The 1st used car buying tip covered the importance of always referencing the vehicle identification number (commonly referred to as the VIN or serial number),when considering a Honda or Acura pre-owned unit that is advertised online. This is the first step, because without a VIN, a consumer cannot reference a title history report on a particular vehicle.

The direct link to the 1st used car buying tip is:

http://accuratecars.com/blog/2009/11/03/tips-on-buying-a-honda-or-acura-used-car/

The 2nd Honda & Acura used car buying tip recommended referencing the Carfax Report for possible service history records.

The direct link to Tip #2  is:

http://accuratecars.com/blog/2010/02/11/honda-and-acura-used-car-buying-tip-2-check-carfax-for-honda-acura-service-records/

Used car buying tip #3 was one of the most important, because it showed how AutoCheck title history reports will expose “frame damaged” and / or “unibody damaged” vehicles that are sold at Manheim Auctions.

The direct link to Tip #3 is:

http://accuratecars.com/blog/2010/02/12/honda-and-acura-used-car-buying-tip-3-reference-autocheck-for-possible-frame-damage-history/

Used car buying tip #4 covered the importance of referencing both Autocheck and Carfax title history reports because both companies use different referencing sources for their data.This is especially important because one of the sources that autocheck uses is Manheim auto auctions. If a vehicle goes through their auction with an announced “frame damaged” condition, autocheck gets notified and they will note it on their title history reports, while Carfax may not get this information.

The direct link to tip #4 is:

http://accuratecars.com/blog/2010/02/18/honda-acura-used-car-buying-tip-4-always-reference-both-title-history-reports/

Used car Buying Tip #5 was about the advantages / dis-advantages of buying your next used car from a dealer or a private seller. This article touched on some of the problems that can arise from making a used car purchase from a private seller. Unless you know the person that you are buying that used car from;  consumers are more likely and better protected if they purchase their next used car from a licensed and bonded car dealer.

The direct link to tip #5 is:

http://accuratecars.com/blog/2010/05/26/honda-acura-used-car-buying-tip-5-internet-car-shopping-dealer-or-no-dealer/

Used Car Buying Tip #6 – Always Google That VIN

Just a few days ago, I was looking at some used car ads online. In particular, I was searching for the very rare 2007 or 2008 Acura TL Type S with a manual 6 speed transmission. Three of them came up in a 500 mile search and all three were “private seller” listings.  One of the three of these very rare Acura TL units was posted with a vin in the online ad.

The vin that was posted in the ad was 19UUA75507A008231. I went to google.com and researched this vin. Many times, the vin will show “no search results found”, but if their is more information linked to a vehicle identification number, it may show in the search results. Only one link showed in the search results and it was Insurance Auto Auctions in South Carolina.

Below are the photos of the 2007 Acura TL Type S that are associated with VIN 19UUA75507A008231. These photos are the property of Insurance Auto Auctions and are only posted in this article for public interest and informational purposes.

After our dealership notified Auto Trader dot com of this fraudulent listing that was displayed on their website; they deleted it from their database.

Our first Used Car Buying Tip covered the importance of the VIN in an online car ad and this is just one example of how important it is. We did not initially pull a title history report to find out the online ad was fraudulent. We just “googled” the vin. After seeing Google results, we did pull the Carfax Report and the AutoCheck Report and both of them confirmed that this 2007 Acura TL Type S (vin 19UUA75507A008231) was a total loss due to fire damage on April 15, 2010….. Just 5 weeks after being purchased on March 9, 2010. All of the vehicle history was in Greenville, South Carolina…… Which is where the private seller of this vehicle listing was located.

SO THE BIG QUESTION IS……

If this vehicle was a total loss due to fire damage in April of 2010, why was it being marketed on auto trader dot com, out of Greenville, SC., in September of 2010?

In closing; many would be amazed at the number of online used car ads that are fraudulent in some way. Some simply display photos that do not represent the actual car, while other ads represent units that dealers do not actually have in inventory. Some online used car ads are just scams, where the seller (usually a private seller) has the goal of luring a buyer into making a deposit on a vehicle, that does not actually exist.  When shopping for that next used car purchase on the internet, remember that the internet is for infomation and background checking. Search for the used car you are looking for, then use the tools that the internet provides to check the history of the vehicle, then go look at the vehicle and test drive it……. And then make an offer to purchase it. Never place an offer or a deposit to hold a vehicle with an online listing, with a private seller before seeing and test driving the vehicle.

 

2 Responses to “Honda & Acura Used Car Buying Tip #6 – Internet Car Shopping: Google That VIN”

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    Jay Says:

    To: Ed Brian,
    The existence of your blog provides a phenomenal amount of information to current and prospective Honda/Accura owners. Saying Thank You, Thank You is definitely not enough. Regarding your discussions of Odyssey EX-L ECO related driveability problems with the rear engine mount, torque converter, and power steering pump, I have the following questions as I’m about to buy a 2008 EX-L with 37K:
    1. Have there been any design changes in these parts to eliminate these issues in the 2007 to 2010 models? Most of the EX-L owners reporting problems in your blog on this have 2005 to 2007 minivans. It could be that Accurate doesn’t see too many newer minivans come in for repair, and you will eventually, or the factory made some part changes.
    2. I’ve test driven a 2010 LX(15K), 2009 EX(27K), and a 2008EX-L(37K), and haven’t experienced the surge or the judder problems described by the blog submitters. What I have experienced is tire noise whine on concrete highways from 35 to 60 mph in the EX-L that had Bridgestone Turanzas, and a lower frequency rumbling noise in the EX with Michelins at same road mph that the salesman said showed “cupping” or what you term a “sawtooth” profile on the tire circumference. Does this suggest that the Odyssey doesn’t suppress tire noise as well as its competitors; e.g., Sienna and Grand Caravan SXT?

    I make two 1500 mile trips a year with the rear completely loaded, and I want a minivan that is fuel efficient and reliable(hence Honda) and “serene” at highway speeds. From my experience with a 1999 Grand Caravan(120K) with the interior fully loaded, the minivan IS quieter than when it is empty. I know some tires are specifically designed to be quieter, and Michelin and Bridgestone have great reputations. Have others brought up this issue, or am I just super sensitive on this?

    3. Your suggestion to lock out the overdrive gear at speeds less than 50mph to avoid lugging the engine when it goes into ECO is an excellent one. What about when one is in hilly terrain at expressway speeds? From your comments, apparently one can’t lock out the ECO. Won’t you have the same “hunting” between overdrive and ECO for uphill climbs if you don’t lock out the OD?

    Thanks for reading and replying…………Jay

  2. 2
    ebrian Says:

    Hey Jay,

    Thanks for your compliment about the blog articles.

    First, Honda & Acura vehicles are built on a consistent platform and you need to understand that in these blog articles; I put Honda / Acura products under a microscope…. We are a shop that exclusively specializes in Honda and Acura vehicles. In addition to our exclusive specialty, we also sell pre-owned Honda and Acura vehicles…. We currently have a 2009 Odyssey in inventory with 44,000 miles on it and we just sold a 2010 Odyssey Touring with 5500 miles on it…. What we learn on a daily basis through our service and sales of Honda and Acura products; we share with Honda and Acura car owners…. This is done through our blog articles as well as one-on-one consultation with our customers, here at our facility.

    Since Accurate’s inception (in May of 1997), our goal has been to keep our Honda and Acura car owner customers informed about their investment.

    REGULAR MAINTENANCE is the answer to the transmission “judder” / “shudder” issues. During the 80’s and 90’s, American Honda recommended an automatic transmission fluid change as an annual / every 15,000 mile maintenance procedure. Trying to market their vehicles as a maintenance friendly vehicle; they omitted this procedure from the regular maintenance service intervals. If you look at the inventory of used cars on the home page of our website, you will see in the “fully serviced” area of the vehicle ads; our service department changes the automatic transmission fluid ON ALL of our Honda and Acura inventory units that have over 15,000 miles on the odometer and we only use the Genuine Honda ATF…… NO EXCEPTIONS….. Because of this, we do not have judder / shudder issues.

    As for road noise; this is another regular maintenance issue…. On all Honda and Acura vehicles (except for the Honda S2000 and Acura NSX, which have different size tires on the front & rear axles) the tires should be rotated every 7500 miles to prevent pre-mature wear / cupping. Many used car dealers will avoid expenses to market their used car inventory and this includes avoiding the investment of new tires, if possible. If the tires have been recently replaced by the used car dealer, to market the vehicle; many times the size is incorrect and / or the brand / treads are not all the same on all 4 wheels. This causes road noise…. In addition to inconsistent tire sizes, brands, tread designs; it is winter and tires develop “flat spots” if the vehicle is parked for a few days, when it is cold…. Even with correct tire sizes, consistent tire treads and top-shelf tires (such as Michelin), we will still drive the vehicle down the interstate a few miles (to eliminate these flat spots) during the winter, before allowing our customers to test drive our used Honda and Acura inventory vehicles.

    To answer your question about ECO; this is a personal / individual preference issue…. There is no absolute in this situation, but I have found that based on load (whether towing or hauling); if I am driving an Odyssey and the average speed of the vehicle is going to be under 60 MPH, I am likely to turn off the OD….. To me, it’s just smoother and especially if the van goes into the ECO mode….. Also, I know that it is less load on the engine and the transmission will operate cooler, as well.

    Because I personally purchase our used car inventory units by attending dealer only sales, I see all brands of vehicles and in various year models and mileage levels…. Without a doubt, the Odyssey is the best van on the road, but it is a vehicle that needs periodic maintenance to preserve the performance and efficiency that is what the market has identified as Honda quality.

    Again, I really appreciate your compliment about the blog articles….

    Keep reading them.
    Ed

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